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Dan
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: Toad Toxin Reply with quote

Do all toads secrete toxins? Is that what makes them toads?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 5:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most frogs and toads secrete various levels of toxins. Those kept in captivity do not tend to produce the same levels of toxins as in the wild. This may be due to a dietary deficiency when kept in captivity.


Toads often have puffy looking pockets called paratoid glands located behind the ear that squirt poison at potential predators.

Although frogs have poisonous skin glands, these toxins do not usually protect them from predatory mammals, birds, and snakes. Edible anurans have to rely on more than just poison glands which tend to work too late (i.e. after the predator has it in his mouth!)

Some of the differences between frogs n toads are listed below.

Frogs have:
smooth or slimy skin
strong, long legs
webbed hind feet
two bulging eyes
lay eggs in clusters
a group of frogs is called an
ARMY of frogs

Toads have:
warty and dry skin
stubby bodies with short hind legs
paratoid glands behind eyes
lay eggs in long chains

a group of toads is called a
KNOT of toads

The physical distinctions, however, can easily get blurred because sometimes the features appear mixed or less obvious, and certain species even legitimately fall into both categories. It is not uncommon, for example, to find a warty skinned frog that isn't a toad, or even a slimy toad! Even the more invisible stuff like cartilage structure has been found to sometimes fit both categories!


Hope the info helps.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The toxics in Fire-Bellied Toads (could be said to be frogs) are the subject of some scientific research due to its skin secretions containing multiple Insulin releasing peptides ...

Posion dart/arrow frogs are far more toxic in their native environment, due to their diet including fire ants...
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cheers guys, so my next question is are there any toads (or frogs for that matter) that don't secrete nasties?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question have not got a clue Laughing .


My guess would be that to a greater or lesser degree they all secrete nasties!

Are you thinking of getting a frog then Dan or do you have some already?


Very good questions and it has me wondering what is behind your questions?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets just say i was going to put this in the feeder forum initially Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
Lets just say i was going to put this in the feeder forum initially Wink


Ekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk your not thinking of feeding poor lil fredos to larger reps are you? You are arnt you! Laughing


Right frog police are on their way round!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy

The full deal is i am looking for Malaysian frogs/toads primarily, however any that don't secrete toxins will do.

They aren't to feed large snakes, ickle tiny ones infact. Just trying to find a nice broad spectrum of food to offer, variety is the spice of life and all that. Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dan wrote:
Very Happy

The full deal is i am looking for Malaysian frogs/toads primarily, however any that don't secrete toxins will do.

They aren't to feed large snakes, ickle tiny ones infact. Just trying to find a nice broad spectrum of food to offer, variety is the spice of life and all that. Wink


Right I see, I take it you have a Malaysian snake and are wanting to replicate food that it would naturally feed on?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They aren't to feed large snakes, ickle tiny ones infact.

There are sources of frozen frogs for this sort of use
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