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[jacqueline]

i need you to read the following that i have sent the breeder and have posted. She has not returned my e mail but posted this on the site she advertised them she will sell these on.And that i have brought them off. I got my mum to write the e mail letter to her.
O.k bear with me and i will do this...
i wantto warn people of horrible breeders and warn other people of her bad name, reputation and horrible treatment to purchasers and report her i will be very gratefull. She can't go on doing this to those beardies and people like me!
The e mail letter that my mum sent her is below:-

[u][b]To: bjsfortheblind@hotmail.com [/b][/u]


I am emailing you off of my daughters e mail address.
Sorry i have not had the time to contact you before, as i have been busy with work.

My son and daughter got 4 bearded dragons off of you, within 7 & 8 days they have lost 2 of them. I did take them to my works vet, which is a qualified exotics vet.An autopsy report has come back that they wereInterbreed which if you know this should not be happening. We are not very happy with this, So it is in your court, You can either send me my childrens money back or replace them.I just hope the other two do not die .
I will look forward to hearing from you.

[b][b]I have not received any e mail back from helen or any returned phone calls. She has even lied in her response to the selling website. This is what she posted...[/b][/b]
re: has any one Posted : 14 May 05

I am sorry one of our customers has lost his bearded dragon. He may have just been unlucky as it seemed totally healthy when he bought it.We sold 30 of the same batch to pet shops that we use regularly and those not yet sold are still thriving. We sold very few to private customers - the ones we have left have stumpy tails and/or missing digits due to one particularly big and hungry cellmate now sold on so I am sorry we cannot offer any perfect replacements. Posted by : helen

Location : Bromley, Kent
i have phone numbers too. i am so upset and cant beleive people do this to make a buck
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. i have asked for a healthy unrelated replacement or my money back and like a coward they have not replied to me at all!

[Jas]

Hi jacqueline

Sorry to hear about your loss, I am a bit puzzled though by your vets findings, I dont think you can tell they was interbred by an autopsy, i think you would need DNA from both parents to prove that, and if they was it wouldnt cause them to die.Are you sure you have double checked all your viv temperatures at both ends of the viv and what your night time temperatures are, and access to the water bowl is ok(sides not to high).
BTW im no vet this is just my opinion.

Good luck with the other two.

[jacqueline]

yes there was access to fresh water,fresh gutloaded food and the temps were both correct at either ends of the viv.
I am just disgusted that this woman has not e mailed or called me back at all. She has posted on the site she has sold them off of.Like a coward. And i know her details and the fact that she wont refund or give me and my bro a replacement each. I am just saddend by the fact of her actions. It does anger me.
How and who can i report her too. i got all the details, names and numbers, address etc

[Black_Zodiac]

I am sorry to hear of your loss. As for being "unlucky" in regards to the beardies themselves, I have to say that that statement is a bald face lie.

Interbreed or not, those beardies should never have left the breeder in the first place if they were unhealthy. All she cared about was the color of your money and that just isn't right. This is not the first time I have heard a story similiar to this one. *If* you should decided to get another beardie, i can direct you to some breeders who *do* care about their beardies.

BTW, what kind of beardie setup do/did you have? Just wondering is all.
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[ReptileResort]

Gutted i would defo report her thats outragouse the remainding beardies have stumpy tails and missing digits due to a hungary cell mate !! , so she left the canabol on there to eat a few , lots of careing and attention given to these poor little beardies then - Being sarcastic ofcourse , if not then missing digits and stumpy tails is a tell tail sign of inbred reptiles , but to be fair i have had 2 inbred beardies before , they were on a constant calcium injections once evry week plus the normal calcium powder , but they both only lived 2 years , my vet wasn't very inpressed that they were inbreds but i got them from worcester reptiles , and he said he has seen hundreds of inbred beardies from the same shop so i would not buy any thing from her again not even food , but my 2 binbred had all there digits and so on they looked normal just they never grew very big at all r.i.p to my long missed beardies Deno & Spyro i would just cut your losses and just think of it as a learning curve and lesson never to shop there again , i hope your 2 remaining beardies live a lot longer and have a happy and healthy life
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[serpent]

[slate58]

Serpent after reading you above post I can see that your sig is very true, diplomacy and tact aren't your strongest attributes!
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[serpent]

[slate58]

Serpent, after spending a fair amount of time on this forum I don't feel that anyone here would try and deny you the right to voice your opinions, I simply wondered if perhaps it would benefit both yourself and those you were conversing with (you may find them more receptive to what you have to say) if you were to use a less aggressive approach. As you say this is your choice and far be it from me to tell you otherwise, no offence was intended.

P.S. Just a quick point: metabolic electrolyte deficiencies CAN be genetic (i.e. interbred) in any species, including reptiles
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[Scott W]

Serpent makes some good points and I would have to say added value to this thread.

Please give ALL posts the benefit of the doubt when trying to judge if they are aggressive...it's very hard to type out something AND give people reading the TRUE feelings in which it was written.

I do agree that perhaps we should ALL re-read posts before sent to see if they need 'tweaking' on the sensitivity, aggressivness or even factual basis.
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