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Melt0s Contributing Member

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Scotland - Fife
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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 11:08 pm Post subject: Leopard Gecko Not Eating |
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Ok, Im feeling guiltier every day. That my male Leopard Gecko, Approx. 1 Year old is not eating. I have bought him a smaller size crickets and mealworms, As i though the problem before was with the size of the last. But obviously not. He hasnt eaten on his own accord at mine yet, And that has been 3 weeks sunday when i got him. I have been force feeding him for the first week, as im scared Im going to loose the guy.
Im thinking its Mouth Rot or Resp Infection. Or Maybe Its just stress, Who knows. But I only want to take him to the vet if intirely neccasary. Because to be quiete frank, Half of the reptile forum community no more then the vets about reptiles. I don't know if he was eating at the pet shop, but even if i asked, Im sure they would of said yes. He was £40, now i wonder why he was so cheap.
I have read that UV lights are to brigh and can course stress, But then, Im thinkign what if he has MBD, And needs the vital rays. Please help us, Because in my eyes, Hes being a little shite. Whats encouraging though, is that hes coming out alot more then usual. Just standing there and staring, and a odd sleep now and then, but not f@c~in eating. Sorry for the language guys, But hes beginning to get on my nerves. And its a shame really, because its either the pet shops fault or mine.
Scott |
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stormiemanda Contributing Member
Joined: 03 Feb 2006 Posts: 169
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject: |
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i don't really no alot about Leo's but what i do no is that they don't require UV light as it can damage there eyes. did you follow the 1 week rule when you got him of leaving him for a week just to settle in? as he might still be a little nervous? also how big is he or old is you no? as i was going to suggest you try him with maybe a pinkie cut in half if your not squeamish. have you checked all the temps are correct? and doe he look healthy to you? not to skinny. try these things give him a week without you bothering him if no better take him to the vets. I'm only telling you what i would do for my reps so if any of the info Ive giving is wrong please don't moan at me I'm only trying to help!!!!
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ssthisto I've settled in...
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 27
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: Re: Leopard Gecko Not Eating |
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Melt0s wrote: | Ok, Im feeling guiltier every day. That my male Leopard Gecko, Approx. 1 Year old is not eating. |
I have three males who are eating very little right now - because they're in breeding mode. One of them hasn't actually eaten for about six weeks. All three are over a year old (the youngest has just had his first birthday) and all three have good plump tails, so I'm not genuinely worried about any of them. They'll start eating again when they get their minds off the ladies downstairs.
Quote: | He hasnt eaten on his own accord at mine yet, And that has been 3 weeks sunday when i got him. I have been force feeding him for the first week, as im scared Im going to loose the guy. |
What is his tail like? Plump? Slim? Thin as a mouse's tail? If he has fat reserves on his tail at all, then force feeding him is just going to stress him out more and make him LESS likely to eat.
Reptiles that are in good physical condition can go a lot longer than three weeks without eating as long as they've got water, and he might be shy about eating (do you leave crickets/mealworms/locusts in his cage? Do you count how many you put in and how many you take out?)
What is his enclosure like? Temperatures? Hiding spaces?
I'd be inclined to stop force-feeding him entirely at this point until you're sure he NEEDS to be force fed (tail looks very thin) and then take some advice from a vet on how best to do it. _________________ - Ssthisto
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Melt0s Contributing Member

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Scotland - Fife
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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Much Appreciated. Yes, He is a 1 Year Old Male. And I can't say i done the one week routine thing... Quite silly of me, As a result of being upset the day I got him, I just wanted to handle him. Wrong idea I geuss. And, Hes not drinking as I see. Hes on sand, Im worrying hes got impaction. So what im going to do is take the sand away and give him newspaper for now, just to make sure, Ill give him sand after hes ok, I hope he gets ok..
Hes an 18"x18"x18" Viv. Picture here;
Change Water every day or other day. And I attempt to give him 3 crickets and 2 mealworms every other day, dusted aswell. But he does not touch. I place the mealworms and crickets in a hamster food bowl. Which i beleive he can get into, as he has crawled over it before. I will probably let the crickets roam when i have newspaper down, because with sand, I cant see where they go.
I use Repti Glo 4.0 (I think, The lowest one..) And a Exo-Terra UFH which is at about 80-84, Not connected to thermostat.
I will take a picture of his tail while im cleaning him out. |
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herplover212 Contributing Member

Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 123 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Hey Scott,
Well, I agree with a lot of what was posted above. If you can list your temps, cage set up, substrate, last fecal, etc etc etc maybe there can be more help offered, or other advice given.
I would post pics, if you can! That helps a lot. If the tail is still plump, fecal is negative and no chance of impaction .... I would simply cover three sides of the tank (if not already done) and leave some mealies in a dish and just leave him alone for a few days. Check a couple times a day and clean water, but otherwise leave him if all else is checked out ok. They can last for weeks, if need be (not that they should), without food and water if they are healthy adults.
-Shanna _________________ *Yes, I am the chick in the pic!" ;) |
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herplover212 Contributing Member

Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 123 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Scott,
Glad to hear the sand is gone. I have to go for a few mins, but I will reply more when I get back. I am hoping I can help. Sounds to me like he may have impaction ..... if not too bad at this point, I can try to talk you through a few things to try. I am hopeful we can get him going in no time! Talk real soon!
-Shanna _________________ *Yes, I am the chick in the pic!" ;) |
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Melt0s Contributing Member

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Scotland - Fife
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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Ok, I have changed him around, And before i give you answers, Just letting you know, That I dont think i will ever have sand again (Not just because it can harm your reptile) its a bitch to clean up. Well one of my biggest concerns is that its impaction.
Temperture - 83-86 usually.
Vivarium - 18"x18"x18"
Substrate - Newspaper (Was Sand)
Defacation - Not Entirely sure, but this pile has built up (This seems to be promesing);
And his tail, I wouldnt say its fat, thats for sure. He doesnt seem to have such a huge storage. I tryed to take some pictures for you, but some you might not be able to see, Hes a few you can see easier.
His new and improved, hopefully, better for him vivaruim. Still looks good with newspaper.
Thanks for your help, All of it is much appreciated, By me and by Spirit. I will pruchase wax worms tonight, and butter worms if possible I get my livefoods from livefoods.co.uk anyway, So thanx for that too. Thank you everyone, Keep it up  |
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ssthisto I've settled in...
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Posts: 27
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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He actually looks like he's about the same weight as my hasn't-eaten-in-six-weeks boy. He's not dangerously thin (I wouldn't personally start assist-feeding until tail was less than index-finger thick) - probably just wanting 'the girls' !
The photo of the poo doesn't look like he's impacted, either - he's still passing urates at least. _________________ - Ssthisto
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Melt0s Contributing Member

Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 149 Location: Scotland - Fife
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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True, true. Thats a other thing, I think i will just keep my chin up and hope hes just a little bit horny. But better to be on the safe side right? |
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herplover212 Contributing Member

Joined: 26 Apr 2006 Posts: 123 Location: WI, USA
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Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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He isn't looking too thin at all. Maybe a tad, but some of my leos are much more long and lean then others. I think he should do fine with some TLC. I would strongly encourage a few days of acidophilus though (or plain yogurt) to help rebuilt guy flora. I would bet money that his tummy is all messed up from the looks of the fecal matter and the grain of sand you were using.
Glad you see and are doing what is best for you and your animal! If you need any other suggestions, just ask! Good people on here! _________________ *Yes, I am the chick in the pic!" ;) |
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