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Grizzly x Polar Bear
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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if this bear did manage to breed it would severely alter the blood pools of either the grizzly or the polar bear populations. However if these bears are so easy to interbreed one may argue that the effects of this would be minimal. Personally I'd just try to keep things simple but no one can be sure to be right because no ones known (no ones recorded scientifically Wink) if this has happened before Wink


Evolution in action?
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All evolution is the direct result of mutations so you never know... Cool
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JStroud wrote:
All evolution is the direct result of mutations so you never know... Cool



That would explain Stuart then! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Wink
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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JStroud wrote:
Gazz: I know that imprinting plays a major role but whatever their mum taught them to eat, in this case it being a female polar bear which as I said is carnivorous, if it maintained the digestived system of a grizzly it would need vegetation for it to survive. However if it solely complied with the mother in no way would it live to be this mature....that's what I find intriguing! Cool

With regards to it being shot, I was saying that on the basis that...even though it was a naturally occurring hybrid and yes mother nature did 'produce' this, if this bear did manage to breed it would severely alter the blood pools of either the grizzly or the polar bear populations. However if these bears are so easy to interbreed one may argue that the effects of this would be minimal. Personally I'd just try to keep things simple but no one can be sure to be right because no ones known (no ones recorded scientifically Wink) if this has happened before Wink


Interesting subject, both sections of it Cool

While yes i would say you are both correct in that the baby will follow mums example but the digestive system will be left short of certain nutrients - however, "mother nature" is a clever old woman (if you follow that train of thought) and ALLWAYS "hardwires" a redundancy circuit into changes (wonder if i re-did this whether i could get any more analogies in?).
To illustrate my point I'll use wolves. These are predominantly carnivorous yet they (like "our" dogs) can be seen eating grass and other vegetation to aid with digestive problems, they are also prone to eating vomit and faeces (bit like some squaddies i know, but that's a different story!) in order to replace lost nutrients. You can be pretty sure that even to a dog that wont taste nice, so they don't do it for fun. They may have seen parents doing it but they won't have known why (comunication skills don't allow it) - it is just something they know to do when they feel they need what ever the action provides.

As for should it have been shot, easy answer. Why not, the virus that is humanity destroys everything else that nature tries to do Sad
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rickeezee wrote:
JStroud wrote:
All evolution is the direct result of mutations so you never know... Cool



That would explain Stuart then! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Wink

Crying or Very sad I'm hurt.
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PostPosted: Wed May 17, 2006 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yer right Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 18, 2006 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stuart wrote:
Rickeezee wrote:
JStroud wrote:
All evolution is the direct result of mutations so you never know... Cool



That would explain Stuart then! Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing Wink

Crying or Very sad I'm hurt.


Come on now evolve yourself out of it! Laughing
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