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Just a few of our 08 Leo Hatchlings
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PaulG
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the sam cjreptiles, has very red eyes, i think you may be lucky !!
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arkreptiles
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ailurus wrote:
wow those are gorgeous.

do you have a delivery/courier service for people who purchase you animals?


we tend not to courier if we can help it - we do however deliver (for fuel cost) to a fairly wide area and we will be at most of the shows this year - so no excuse not to buy one (or several) lol!!!
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arkreptiles
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjreptiles wrote:
Lovely leos. The "enigma het Bell" looks like a Bell enigma.


we thought that but the parents are a Bell female and male (non-het) enigma so Enigma het Bell.

Did raise the question about whether it is a 'throw back' given that the enigma's originated from the Bell line ... any theories???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve H wrote:
Great looking hatchlings. Very Happy Very Happy
Got abit of a shock when i saw the last pic of your mack snow as i've got it's twin. Shocked


so shocked you said it twice - lol!!!

We are working with TUG snows (no super form), a JMG line and a fairly white group of Macks as well as combinations of the above - time will tell how it all turns out ...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My guess would be that the male enigma is actually het. Bell. Do you have any evidence other than the fact he was sold to you as a non-het that he isn't het for Bell?

Out of interest, how many hatchlings have you had from him when pairing him with Bell females?

arkreptiles wrote:
cjreptiles wrote:
Lovely leos. The "enigma het Bell" looks like a Bell enigma.


we thought that but the parents are a Bell female and male (non-het) enigma so Enigma het Bell.

Did raise the question about whether it is a 'throw back' given that the enigma's originated from the Bell line ... any theories???
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some great looking babes you've got! Congrats Very Happy I love snows...in any form, the poss bell enigma is stunning too.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

nice collection, and variety in morphs.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Steve H wrote:
Great looking hatchlings.
Got abit of a shock when i saw the last pic of your mack snow as i've got it's twin.


so shocked you said it twice - lol!!!


Nah,that's my crap pc skills.
But take a look at this.Twins or what. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve H wrote:
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Steve H wrote:
Great looking hatchlings.
Got abit of a shock when i saw the last pic of your mack snow as i've got it's twin.


so shocked you said it twice - lol!!!


Nah,that's my crap pc skills.
But take a look at this.Twins or what. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy


Now that's spooky!!!
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arkreptiles
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cjreptiles wrote:
My guess would be that the male enigma is actually het. Bell. Do you have any evidence other than the fact he was sold to you as a non-het that he isn't het for Bell?

Out of interest, how many hatchlings have you had from him when pairing him with Bell females?

arkreptiles wrote:
cjreptiles wrote:
Lovely leos. The "enigma het Bell" looks like a Bell enigma.


we thought that but the parents are a Bell female and male (non-het) enigma so Enigma het Bell.

Did raise the question about whether it is a 'throw back' given that the enigma's originated from the Bell line ... any theories???


Hi, the male is directly from Kelli at HISS who is sure he wasn't het bell so I'll have to take her word for now - although we are a little suspicious.

He was paired with only one Bell this year (but 4 others!!): 12 eggs, 7 hatched and one slug so far. Only two normal het Bells out of that lot so not too bad. This is the only one that exhibits red eye. It is also considerably lighter than the others which all have a yellow base colour - odd since the male is quite white!!
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