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Jase Captivebred Colonel

Joined: 24 Feb 2007 Posts: 2602 Location: Wolverhampton
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 1:14 am Post subject: |
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Cheers Paul, I know it's a cliche but I've got one that looks like that
She was WC tho so you never know  _________________ A lil bit of Madagascar
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The Medusan Key Member

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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[quote="angel148"
Hi Jase, the Fires are a lot lighter, almost silvery yellow as adults. I have put a couple of pictures below. They also have a ghost like appearance. Side by side they are quite different. I have some Fire boys mating some normal girls. I fed my boys yesterday and giving them another rest day (they have been so busy, lucky sods!!) but I will put them back in to the girls tomorrow, when I do I will post you a couple of pictures of them together so you can really see the difference.
Paul[/quote]
Hi Paul
Does that mean that the Fire is a Visual Het? How does it compare to the Russo line Het Leucistic?
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angel148 Key Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 328 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 11:38 am Post subject: |
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The Medusan wrote: | [quote="angel148"
Hi Jase, the Fires are a lot lighter, almost silvery yellow as adults. I have put a couple of pictures below. They also have a ghost like appearance. Side by side they are quite different. I have some Fire boys mating some normal girls. I fed my boys yesterday and giving them another rest day (they have been so busy, lucky sods!!) but I will put them back in to the girls tomorrow, when I do I will post you a couple of pictures of them together so you can really see the difference.
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Hi Paul
Does that mean that the Fire is a Visual Het? How does it compare to the Russo line Het Leucistic?
Cheers
Dave[/quote]
Right guys, I will try and help here. Yes the Fire (100% het for Black Eyed Leucistic) is a clear visual het. I have attached a couple of pictures along with a picture of my Super Dwarf Fire Retic to show what this type of gene does. The Fire male in the picture is not the best example but the better one is milked over. I have never seen Russo Hets in person but I believe they are more of a golden yellow than the Fires and of course they produce the Blue Eyed Leucy. I'm sure many have a very light normal in their collection that does look the same but in the flesh they look very different. You can also see the ghosting on the Fire in the picture.
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PaulG Captivebred Colonel

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 3996 Location: North West
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:55 pm Post subject: |
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They are very fifferent!
I really like them!
Bit out of range at the moment.
Imagine a fire axanthic! _________________ Regards, Paul.
:.Rhacodactylus.:.Eublepharis.:.Stenodactylus.:.Nephrurus.: |
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The Medusan Key Member

Joined: 22 Sep 2007 Posts: 233 Location: Portugal
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Posted: Sun Oct 21, 2007 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Right guys, I will try and help here. Yes the Fire (100% het for Black Eyed Leucistic) is a clear visual het. I have attached a couple of pictures along with a picture of my Super Dwarf Fire Retic to show what this type of gene does. The Fire male in the picture is not the best example but the better one is milked over. I have never seen Russo Hets in person but I believe they are more of a golden yellow than the Fires and of course they produce the Blue Eyed Leucy. I'm sure many have a very light normal in their collection that does look the same but in the flesh they look very different. You can also see the ghosting on the Fire in the picture.
Paul
Thanks Paul, that was a very informative post and is much appreciated! |
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dazzlah Contributing Member
Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 112 Location: South East
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Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject: |
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wethepeople wrote: | Those fire combos look awesome but how do you tell a fire from a normal?!  |
Fires usually have a light circle pattern on their heads (well according to the Ralph Davies site)  _________________ Graphic design genius (print & web)
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angel148 Key Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 328 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 1:00 pm Post subject: |
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dazzlah wrote: | wethepeople wrote: | Those fire combos look awesome but how do you tell a fire from a normal?!  |
Fires usually have a light circle pattern on their heads (well according to the Ralph Davies site)  |
Only 2 of mine has this 'circle pattern' on the head, one is pictured above. What they have is a ghosting on the head. This is more of a patch and on most not circular, just ghosting. One of my proven males has nothing. Either Ralph is wrong, I have been ripped off or there is more than one line. I don't think this is an accurate method. If I prove all of mine out then this is certainly not the case. Hope this is helping.
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Italian Python Contributing Member
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 52 Location: Naples,Italy
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 10:50 am Post subject: |
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this is a recent pic:
fire in the center and Russo het on right
this second pic is a detail of the eye of the Russo het(orange spot inside)
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PaulG Captivebred Colonel

Joined: 26 Jan 2007 Posts: 3996 Location: North West
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:15 pm Post subject: |
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Great pictures, thanks for sharing! _________________ Regards, Paul.
:.Rhacodactylus.:.Eublepharis.:.Stenodactylus.:.Nephrurus.: |
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angel148 Key Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2007 Posts: 328 Location: Leicester
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Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Great pictures and really lovely snakes. Goes to show how they differ, your Fire looks very different from mine. Very nice though, ALL of them. Good luck with them all.
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