Reptile Forum, Reptile Classifieds - CaptiveBred

[atticus22]

Hi guys, think this is my first post on here, been lurking around for quite a few months now though haha.

I would like to ask your opinion as to which snake I should go for. I am moving out into my own flat in two weeks time, and am looking to aquire a new pet.

Now I love arboreal species, and the size of vivarium needed is not really an issue, however ideally I would like it in the style of a converted bookcase, if that makes sense, so more rectangular, with more vertical length.

The two species I am looking at, are a Green Tree Python, or A Jungle Carpet Python.

I realise that gtp's are meant to be quite difficult to keep, but I feel I have the experience and knowledge (after lots of research!) to keep one. The same goes for the JCP. I would quite like to keep two of the same species in the same vivarium, and although I realise that this is usually not recommended, I have seen various pictures on this site and others of two being housed together with no real problems. What are your thoughts on this?

I like the idea of the snake being on display, especially suspended amongst the branches, and am not TOO bothered about being able to handle it regularly, although its a nice bonus I suppose.


I am also looking into the idea of a veiled chameleon instead, but obviously this isnt the right section for that, but hey, if anyone can recommend them? lol.


What would be your opinions?

Thanks.

Chris

[Snowy]

First thing is to check if there are restrictions on what pets you can keep in your new flat. For example I live in a tower block and it is against the tenancy (meaning that you can be evicted for it) to keep dogs. I am hopefully moving to another town, and there the rules are no pets at all in tower blocks and in other flats not dogs. This is council as the landlord.

A friend of mine lives in housing association and they are not allowed to keep dogs or any venimous animals (regarldess of whether or not the are lethal). Another lives in private landlord property and the restrictions are no pets what so ever.

As a new keeper and these would be new snakes I woudl say no to keeping them together. Those that do do it with snakes they know the temprement of and have a bit of experience with. Personally I would never keep snakes together unless it is breeding time and my female is too young for that so thyey are all seperate..
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[Nick]

Chris - what is your level of experience other than reading about GTPs etc. Do you currently keep other snakes?

Nick.

[atticus22]

Sorry I should have added, I have kept Corns, Garter snakes, and a Common Boa before. Still have one corn snake.

Theres no restrictions on having pets as far as the flat goes.

[Stuart Marquis]

Chris,

If you do opt for the GTP make sure it is definitely a CB animal. All chondro's are delicate animals but if you take a chance on a farmed or WC animal you're asking for trouble (I speak from experience!).

Also, on a more practical note. If you do go for the chondro I'd stear clear of using a converted book-case as the enclosure. I had the same idea about a year ago and actually went out and bought a book case and converted it into a three viv stack to house some of my chondros. It looked great...for about 4 weeks until the high humidity levels cause the wood to warp and bubble (and I had used silicone sealant etc) . It would probably have been fine for a snake that had no specific humidity requirements, but for chondros, no.

good luck

Stuart

[Nick]

I'd go for the JCP Chris, providing the viv is big enough - they can get quite large. They're not as arboreal as chondros but a little more forgiving regarding husbandry fluctuations! If you want to keep two together, make sure they are a sexed pair or two females.

Good luck, Nick

[atticus22]

Hey mate, yes it would definitely be a CB no matter what species I went for, probably going to get it from Crystal Palace Reptiles as when I went in I was very impressed and they were more than happy to answer every question and go out of their way to show me around etc.

I think I would be building the viv myself, the bookcase was just to give an idea of what shape I would like it, and I plan on following this guide:

http://www.finegtps.com/cageplans.htm#Tools%20Needed

...and so with a water resistant coating I feel the humidity should not pose too much of a problem.

Do JCP's spend a lot of time in the branches?

Any pics of either in their cages would be much appreciated.

[Stuart Marquis]

Crystal Palace Reptiles is a well respected pet shop and I've bought from there myself, but most of the chondros they have are imports from indonesian breeding farms , not strictly what I'd call captive bred. But definitely towards the better end of the CF spectrum!

Stuart

[Stuart Marquis]

some of my cages;



cheers

Stuart

[David Maguire]

nice setup simple but effective how big is your one?
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Regards,
David