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SnakeGuy · Key Member Joined: 28 Jun 2007 Posts: 371 Location: Devon

yeah don't like it myself. Theres just so much of it happening now i can see a point in the near future where we will not know whether what your buying is 100% Royal or 100% carpet python a bit like now with corn snakes.

PJM72 · Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 7:49 pm Post subject:

hmmm not sure on that little guy! Confused

HerpCrazy!!! · Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:46 am Post subject:

Good looking snake but no better looking than some pure species. Why do it?
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karkov · Posted: Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:14 am Post subject:

That is sick...
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Thames Valley Rodents · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 6:26 pm Post subject:

I have no problem with the production of hybrids if the people that breed them are 100% honest regarding what they are and so long as the dont get into the general breeding stock of either parent species. As far as I am concerned, if its carefully bred and looks nothing like either parent then fine.
Having seen what has happened to some of the dwarf hamster species (buy a dwarf hamster from a pet shop and unless you know that it came from a show breeder you are GUARENTEED that you are buying a hybrid. They have massive problems, head tilts, diabetes, glaucoma... and a hybrid is nigh impossible to tell from a pure in many cases even if you do know what you are looking at.
The same has happened with pallid and cheesemans gerbils and now every single pallid/cheesemans in the UK and the rest of Europe is a hybrid and our pure captive stock is lost.
Careless breeding of these hybrids has resulted in total destruction of a species (in captivity).
So as I say... as long as the hybrids never look like either of the parents and the breeders and subsequent breeders of these animals are always honest and make it clear that this animal is not pure and shouldnt be used in a line that will then be used to breed more 'pure' stock then fine...

Kat
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Scott W · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:37 pm Post subject:

interesting post Kat, I never knew that about the gerbils and dwarf hamsters, thanks.
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Thames Valley Rodents · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject:

no probs. I'm very much on the fence when it comes to hybrids. Its interestingt o see that royal x carpet as I have both and can safely say that though the patterning is markedly that of a carpet, it looks nothing like either of its parents. It is therefore in my eyes a reasonably safe cross and is living proof that royals and carpets are reasonably closely related. From that point of view it is fascinating.

Kat
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davo · Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:38 pm Post subject:

but if this snake can produce... what happens when you cross it back with say a carpet, and eventually the traits of one will slowly decrese in able detection. What do you do then?